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The House Committee on Energy and Commerce

W.J. "Billy" Tauzin, Chairman

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H.R. 4678, the Consumer Privacy Protection Act of 2002

Subcommittee on Commerce, Trade, and Consumer Protection
September 24, 2002
09:00 AM
2322 Rayburn House Office Building 

 

 
 

Mr. Paul Misener
Vice President Global Public Policy
Amazon.com
126 C Street, NW
Washington, DC, 20001

Chairman Stearns, Mr. Towns, and members of the subcommittee, my name is Paul Misener.  I am Amazon.com’s Vice President for Global Public Policy.  Thank you very much for inviting me to testify today. 

Amazon.com is the Internet’s leading retailer.  As I described in detail in my testimony before this subcommittee last year, Amazon.com uses consumer information to personalize the shopping experience at our online store and, thus, to help our customers find and discover anything they may want to buy.  At the same time, Amazon.com is pro-privacy:  we make every effort to provide our customers outstanding privacy notice, choice, access, and security. 

Mr. Chairman, through your steadfast leadership, and the dedicated efforts of the members and extraordinarily talented staff of your subcommittee and the full committee, you have amassed what likely is the world’s most comprehensive legislative record on consumer information privacy.  You have held seven highly informative hearings and countless meetings with company and association representatives, public interest advocates, and academics.  Your willingness to listen impartially to all parties is well known and greatly appreciated. 

It is not surprising, therefore, that you have introduced, with bipartisan support, such an excellent bill, H.R. 4678.  The essential purpose of your bill, if I may summarize it, is to provide consumers a baseline of information privacy protection, regardless of the specific type of information involved; regardless of the medium through which it is collected; and regardless of where a consumer is located in the United States.  This approach works very well with existing U.S. privacy law, which provides additional protections for particularly sensitive information (such as medical and financial records) and particularly hazardous situations (such as unsupervised children online). 

As I will describe in detail momentarily, H.R. 4678 includes the three indispensable components about which I testified to your subcommittee last year.  Specifically, your bill would address consumer information uniformly among all methods of collection; it would establish a national system that avoids a hodgepodge of state rules; and it would employ the consistency and balance of a public enforcement mechanism.  H.R. 4678 goes even further by addressing head-on the issue consumers often cite as their principal “privacy” concern:  identity theft.  It also wisely would begin the process of examining how best to harmonize privacy protections worldwide.  All in all, Mr. Chairman, H.R. 4678 is an excellent bill. 

I must explain, however, that Amazon.com is not actually seeking privacy legislation.  For several reasons, we believe it would not be proper for us to do so.  First, if we were to argue that a bill must be passed, we might incorrectly be viewed as suggesting that a bill is necessary in order to make our company protect consumer privacy.  But as I briefly outlined earlier, and described in detail in my testimony last year, Amazon.com already provides excellent privacy protections to our customers.  In fact, H.R. 4678 likely would not require Amazon.com to alter its privacy practices in any substantial way:  we simply do not need a new law to force us to provide outstanding consumer privacy protections. 

Second, Amazon.com arguing that a bill must be passed could be misinterpreted to mean that we want Congress to force other companies to offer privacy protections at the level that we already do.  After all, it is a centuries-old tradition for market-leading companies to seek regulations that mirror their current practices, if for no other reasons than to impose additional costs on existing competitors and market entry costs on potential competitors.  Frankly, however, we think other companies neglect consumer information privacy at their peril:  Companies simply must offer excellent privacy practices or else they will lose business, regardless of whether a law requires it. 

Third, if we actively seek passage of a federal bill, it might be said that we merely wish to preempt state legislation in this area.  Although it is true that state-by-state legislation of consumer information privacy easily could produce an untenable and unconstitutional “crazy-quilt” of rules with which online companies might find it difficult or impossible to comply, states thus far have heeded our warnings in this regard.  A national privacy scheme, based on explicit preemption of state laws, is an essential component of any federal legislation but, obviously, until state laws are passed, no such preemption is necessary.

 Finally, by arguing that a bill must be passed, Amazon.com might mislead some observers into thinking that we believe a bill is necessary to improve consumer confidence on the Internet.  Although we are aware of intuitive and compelling arguments that legislation is necessary to boost consumer confidence, we are not nearly so sure this is true.  Just as in the offline retail world, consumers know there are both safe and unsafe places to shop. 

In sum, Mr. Chairman, we do not come before you today requesting privacy legislation.  Others have made a strong case for a new law but, for the reasons I have just articulated, Amazon.com is not prepared to make the same case. 

Nonetheless, Mr. Chairman, if you and your colleagues determine that general consumer information privacy legislation is needed, Amazon.com fully supports H.R. 4678 to meet this need.  This bill is an excellent vehicle by which Congress could address the consumer information privacy concerns various parties have raised, and Amazon.com could continue to serve our customers well if it were enacted.

 In my remaining time, I would like to offer Amazon.com’s support for three particular and essential aspects of H.R. 4678.  Without any one of these components, Amazon.com – and, I suspect, many other companies – could not support this bill.

 First and foremost, H.R. 4678 addresses consumer information privacy holistically, without regard to the medium through which the information is collected.  This parity among media is both wise and fair.  It is wise because the personal consumer information collected offline (to the extent the terms “offline” and “online” have any meaning in today’s world of communications convergence) is as sensitive as or, often, is more sensitive than, information collected online.  There is no reason for legislation to treat, for example, the privacy of a person’s mailing address differently if it were collected at an online website instead of at a mall kiosk or over the phone. 

This parity also is wise because online transactions often provide more consumer privacy protections than offline transactions.  Indeed, brick-and-mortar retailers know their customers’ physical characteristics, including race, sex, weight, complexion, et cetera, but online retailers cannot.  And unlike their online competitors, brick-and-mortar retailers also know their customers’ geographic location; we online retailers, on the other hand, do not know from where our customers access our Website. 

Parity also is fair to online businesses, because the information privacy practices of competitors that happen to operate through different communications media would be treated the same.  And, most importantly, parity is fair to consumers, because it would address 100% of their retail transactions rather than the mere one or two percent conducted online.  Significantly, parity also would address the privacy concerns of those persons on the unfortunate side of the digital divide, not just those people who shop online.  This bears repeating:  an online-only bill would have the perverse effect of providing no privacy protections to those on the unfortunate side of the digital divide. 

In sum, H.R. 4678 wisely and fairly addresses consumer information privacy without regard to the medium through which it is collected.   

Amazon.com also supports H.R. 4678’s national approach to consumer information privacy.  It would be difficult or impossible for nationwide entities such as our company to comply with a “crazy-quilt” of state consumer privacy legislation.  The inherent interstate nature of Web-based commerce – a single Web page is viewable from anywhere in the world – demands a national solution; your bill recognizes this fact by preempting relevant state law. 

Finally, Amazon.com supports the bill’s faith in the consistency and balance of a public enforcement mechanism.  Consumers need readable, not legalistic, privacy notices.  Only a regulatory body such as the Federal Trade Commission is well positioned to balance the competing goals of legal precision and readability.  Indeed, despite the bill’s emphasis on the readability of privacy notices, private litigants would have no interest in protecting readability.  If private enforcement were authorized, companies like Amazon.com might be forced to adopt Balkanized, legalistic privacy notices at the expense of consumer accessibility.  Only a public enforcement mechanism, such as that included in H.R. 4678, would foster a tenable balance between the competing goals of accuracy and readability. 

Let me summarize by saying that although we are not explicitly seeking privacy legislation, Amazon.com is, on behalf of our company and customers, proud to support H.R. 4678, which wisely and fairly addresses consumer information uniformly among all methods of collection; establishes a national system that avoids a hodgepodge of state and local rules; and employs the consistency and balance of a public enforcement mechanism.  As I mentioned earlier, it also sensibly addresses consumer identity theft and the international aspects of privacy policy. 

Thank you again, Mr. Chairman, for your attention to the facts and details of consumer information privacy.  On behalf of our company and customers, Amazon.com sincerely appreciates your perspicacity.

 Lastly, thank you for inviting me to testify; I look forward to your questions.

 
 

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