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Witness Testimony The Committee on Energy and Commerce W.J. "Billy" Tauzin, Chairman H.R. 4678, the Consumer Privacy Protection Act of 2002 Mr. John Schall
Mr. Chairman and Members of the Subcommittee, on behalf of
the members of the National Business Coalition on E-Commerce and Privacy, I want
to thank you for permitting me the opportunity to discuss our views on HR 4678,
the Consumer Privacy Protection Act of 2002. We believe that this is an
important piece of legislation with profound consequences not only for
e-commerce specifically, but for the economy as a whole. The National Business Coalition on E-Commerce and Privacy,
of which I am the Executive Director, is comprised of 15 widely recognized
companies dedicated to the pursuit of a balanced and uniform national policy
pertaining to electronic commerce and privacy. We are engaged in virtually
every sector of the economy and in every geographic location in the country,
with over 40 million customers. We deliberately created a diverse
coalition because the privacy issue is not just restricted to the financial
services industry or the health care community, but touches on every sector of
our economy. We believe that we are the only coalition whose membership
includes financial and non-financial companies. Our wide range of
companies are in manufacturing, like General Motors and John Deere Corporation;
retail, like Home Depot; hospitality, like Six Continents Hotels; media, like
General Electric; as well as some insurance and financial services companies
such as Charles Schwab. These and our other members are all top
competitors in the e-commerce marketplace, who use the Internet as an essential
component of their ability to deliver goods and services to their customers. Our members have spent decades developing respected brand
names and cultivating mutual trust with their customers, and I can assure every
member of this Subcommittee that we are strongly committed to ensuring the
privacy of our customers both on-line and off-line. It is for that reason that we are very encouraged by the
provisions of HR 4678. We believe this bill moves the privacy debate in a
positive and useful direction, and the Coalition would especially like to thank
you, Mr. Chairman, for the enormous amount of work that you and your staff have
put into analyzing the complexities of the privacy issue and in crafting this
legislation. The Coalition is pleased that HR 4678 lays out a clear-cut
and balanced privacy policy for the nation. By requiring the prominent
posting of, and by requiring adherence to, a company’s privacy policies, it is
our view that HR 4678, more than any other piece of legislation currently before
the Congress, assures that consumers have the information that they need in
order to make informed choices about the use of personal information that
pertains to them. A well-informed consumer is the heart of the matter
because in a free market economy, knowledge empowers the customer. And we
believe that the simple and straightforward step of letting consumers know how
information is going to be used is the single most important and useful thing
that we can do in the area of privacy. I will focus my remarks today on three areas that our
Coalition deems especially important: 1) the creation of uniform national
privacy standards; 2) the equal treatment of off-line and on-line information;
and 3) private rights of action. We are pleased to see that HR 4678 deals
with each of these vital issues in a balanced and sensible way. By creating uniformity of state and local privacy laws, we
believe HR 4678 demonstrates an appropriate appreciation of the nature of
e-commerce and the modern economy. An economy in which orders for new
products and services can be made at the touch of a button. An economy
that allows a customer in Oregon to purchase a product in Florida in a matter of
mere seconds. An economy that is, in a very real way, an economy without
borders. A patchwork of state and local laws would pose an enormous
burden to, and fragmentation of, our economy. This would be a significant
disincentive for companies to participate in the e-commerce marketplace,
especially smaller companies, since they would be forced to navigate a sea of
sometimes conflicting state and local privacy laws. Furthermore, the costs
of complying with such conflicting laws would, more likely than not, be passed
on to the consumer. Mr. Chairman, in the 50 states this year, over 548 privacy
bills were introduced in the state legislatures. That’s 548 different
approaches to what 50 different state jurisdictions ought to do about the single
issue we’re discussing here today. And if that weren’t enough, numerous local jurisdictions
are now also jumping in and beginning to tackle the question of privacy.
For example, in the State of California, San Mateo County and Daly City have
both just passed their own privacy laws, with San Francisco, Berkeley, Marin
County, Contra Costa County, and Alameda County all expected to do so in the
coming weeks. And that’s within just the San Francisco Bay
Area. Surely there will be more after that. Remember, there are
almost 100,000 local government jurisdictions in the United States. I’m
not sure I want to even contemplate how a company could comply with 50 states
multiplied by 100,000 localities multiplied by a minimum of 548 different
privacy policies. Obviously, this is a recipe for a disjointed and
inefficient marketplace. We, therefore, wish to strongly impress upon the
Congress the urgent need to pass legislation with strong Federal preemption of
both state and local laws. We believe that only by effectively providing a
uniform privacy standard across the nation, will the Congress be able to avoid
the problems that would accompany a multitude of legal requirements, with all of
the ultimately unworkable administrative requirements that would imply. I would also add, Mr. Chairman, that those who argue that
they seek a Federal privacy law to create “a floor but not a ceiling,” are
begging a fundamental question of fairness. If privacy is to mean anything
it is as a guarantee of certainty that consumers may know the rules of the road
wherever they go in our economy. Far from being a protection of privacy,
the “floor and not a ceiling” argument will result in confusion and
conflicting standards that will benefit some consumers and punish others almost
at random because of the mere accident of geographical location. In the
world of floors and ceilings, where you live will be more important to your
privacy than who you are. Secondly, the Coalition is greatly pleased to see that HR
4678 treats information gathered on-line and off-line in the same way.
Every one of our member companies operates both on-line and off-line, as does, I
assume, almost every major American company, as well as a number of smaller
ones. While we appreciate that those Members of Congress who seek to make
a distinction between on-line and off-line information believed that they are
assisting certain portions of the business community, the truth is that doing
so, in fact, would be enormously burdensome and presents some very real
difficulties. To begin with, as a general rule, all information collected
by companies either on-line or off-line is stored in the same system.
Often no distinction is made based on where the information is collected.
To create such a distinction in law would be to invite enormous record keeping
and financial burdens for private industry, to no practical real world benefit
for the consumer. Furthermore, to create such a distinction becomes an
exercise in the most profound hair splitting. Is information
collected in person and then stored online considered online or offline?
What if the information is collected over the telephone, or through a computer?
Or transmitted from a telephone to a computer? These are the kinds of
Solomonic judgments that will keep the courts busy for years if a distinction is
made between on-line and off-line information. By treating similar information gathered on-line and
off-line in the same way, HR 4678 sensibly balances the needs of industry with
the privacy of the consumer, and assures the protection of both with a minimum
of ambiguity. Thirdly, we are greatly pleased that HR 4678 does not
permit private rights of action at a time when everyone agrees that our society
is already far too litigious. The Coalition is well aware that this matter
of private rights of action will be highly controversial and is an outgrowth of
broader legal reform issues facing the Congress. But the likely result of
a private right of action would be to dissuade companies from relying on
e-commerce, or more likely, it would cause them to hedge their bets against
frivolous lawsuits by adding costly procedures and protections. Such
procedures and protections would not measurably aid consumers, but their costs
would be passed on in the form of higher prices and reduced service. In the context of privacy, there is concrete evidence to
show that existing law has more than sufficed to protect consumer interests.
The Federal Trade Commission has recognized that existing enforcement authority
deals with most violations of privacy law and opening the door to private rights
of action would simply create an environment conducive to even more unnecessary
lawsuits in an already clogged and expensive legal system. I would also
point out that under this bill, the states would still have existing private
rights of action and the litigation authority already vested in them through the
mini-FTC Acts. Instead of creating a new private right of action, HR 4678
more appropriately creates a Self Regulatory Organization (SRO) process in which
arbitration may be binding. This possibility of binding arbitration is
critical – otherwise the SRO process would represent little more than yet
another expensive layer of compliance. Mr. Chairman and Members of this Subcommittee, HR 4678 is a
reasoned and measured step forward in the privacy debate, and the most promising
alternative currently pending in the Congress. We would like to suggest,
however, some potential sandtraps to avoid and some drafting improvements to HR
4678, where possible. For example, we would highlight the need to apply the
opt-out provisions of the bill to the use of information, rather than to the
collection of information, as the bill currently requires. Likewise, our
Coalition companies, who all deal in both the business-to- business and the
business-to-consumer environments, would like it to be made more explicit that
HR 4678 applies to business-to-consumer relationships and not to
business-to-business transactions. With regard to remedies and
enforcement, we believe that it would be helpful to explicitly prohibit class
action lawsuits. Finally, unnecessary access provisions are best
avoided because they could ironically create perverse incentives for companies
to centrally maintain exactly the sort of customer profiles that we all seek to
avoid. Mr. Chairman and Members of this Subcommittee, once again,
on behalf of the National Business Coalition on E-Commerce and Privacy, I would
like to congratulate you on your leadership in successfully moving the privacy
debate forward and in drafting HR 4678. We believe that with this
legislation, you have taken a singularly positive step, and that you have struck
a prudent and sensible balance between the privacy of the consumer and the needs
of the business community. We hope to be able to continue to work with you
as the privacy debate develops, and I would now be happy to answer any questions
that you may have. Attachment
National Business Coalition on E-Commerce and Privacy Member Companies: American Century Investments AMVESCAP CheckFree CIGNA Deere & Company Dupont Fidelity Investments Fortis, Inc. General Electric General Motors The Home Depot Investment Company Institute MBNA America Charles Schwab & Company Six Continents Hotels For further information contact: John A. Schall Executive Director 601 Pennsylvania Ave. NW North Building, 11th Floor Washington, DC 20004-2601 (202) 756-3385 Fax: (202) 756-3333 Jschall@alston.com Visit our Coaltion website at: www.practicalprivacy.org The
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